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? >> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward a secret deal made in secret meetings where nobody will know what's going on, and then people will be told, boy, if you don't vote for this, we'll go over the cliff. well, i think there are a lot worse things than going over a man-made cliff that i think is entirely artificial. i think the reality is the president of the united states has not come forward with any serious spending cuts. what the democrats are proposing is to take the tax increase now and then sometime next year eventually possibly we might have some kind of entitlement reform. that's a bad deal for the american people. >> greta: i
on on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner sitting down with the top leaders in congress and in the senate, they are discussing what needs to be done to reduce the deficit and maybe how much flexibility there could be on either side. the deal is to avoid a series of tax increases, and spending cuts that many believe would be a fiscal cliff that would kick in on january the 1st. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is watching it all unfold on capitol hill. what do we know about the visit about the expectations for what might happen during it. >> reporter: martha, timothy geithner arrived here on capitol hill a short time ago to meet first with senate majority leader harry reid. we know he's having individual meetings with the top four leaders of congress. what republicans have said they want to hear, and republicans will be critical, because they need republican support to get any final fiscal cliff deal through the senate, and also through the house, they say they hope that he's coming with concrete spending cut ideas that are acceptable to the admi
, go down the fiscal cliff for tax rates, and adjust the taxes for the 98% through the rebate process. and this could be available for anyone, any president. let the bush tax rates apply as a ceiling, and then apply the rebate process to control the 98%. host: why do you propose that? what is the advantage in your view? caller: because the executive branch, the president, whoever it is, would have the ability to adjust the tax effectively for anyone who falls below the clintons' ceiling, and they could do this anytime. there would not have to go back to congress. -- they would not have to go back to congress. guest: it is true that technically the administration can do some things without even the congress's approval, but it would not be a lasting solution. let's say you could freeze the amount of withholding that you pay three paycheck at the level it was this year, for the 98%, and increase withholdings for everyone else as the law would dictate if you read over the cliff. -- went over the cliff. but the 98%, if they did not actually pass a law to extend the tax cuts for that portio
that are going back and forth as we count down to the fiscal cliff here. joining me now from new orleans is melissa harris perry. you got to hear all that. so first off, he regarded the conversation that he had with the president last night as a very nice conversation, direct and straightforward. it's been reported throughout the morning that it was more of a curt conversation. but it seems as if with the president going into this discussion, he holds all the cards and all the lemverage, bu it doesn't seem john boehner is willing to meet in the middle here. he said i'm not going to get into the details. why not tell us the details what have they want? >> i think because of what you just said. because as a matter of politics in fact hold the cards here. it's more than just sort that he has the ability to go over the fiscal cliff, allow sort of the 113th congress to convene. that congress will certainly continue to have a republican majority but also a greater influence of the democratic party, and a lesser influence of the tea party coalition within the republican party, and once that 113
cliff. like i said, it went down in the early going but ended up surging up 107 to almost 13,000. and one analyst put it markets are starting to lean toward some sort of agreement. meanwhile the fed reports that a rise in consumer spending and really steady home sales helped boost economic growth from october through early november in most of the country. the exception being the northeast in the wake of super storm sandy. the fox business network peter barnes with the news from the when you say tonight. what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most places and with the holidays coming up. it said that the outlook for retail sales was
in the house, they'll have to pass it staring down the fiscal cliff. >> but here's the thing. both sides acknowledge that you're not going to get a deal done without some sort of change to entitlements. specifically medicare. >> well, i'm not so sure what that means when you say it's some sort of change. some sort of structural change to medicare? i'm not sure that has to be on the table. i do think, though, that we do have to have some spending cuts and the president has acknowledged that, as well. but the basis of the problem is you have to have -- the republican party is intransigent about the idea of tax increases and the taxes will grow up after december 31st regardless of what happens. if you don't do anything, they'll go up. so you have to do something. you'll have 98% of the american people who will get a tax cut under president obama's proposal, 97% of american small businesses will get a tax cut. so why not come to a negotiated deal on the things that we agree on and put aside the other things. we don't thesely have to agree on those 2%. let's work on where there is some sort o
the so-called fiscal cliff, but as the clock ticks down to mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes, negotiations to reach a deal look like they are at a standstill. and now, live to washington with the latest. steve? >> that deadline for action could be fast approaching but the two sides do not appear to be in a hurry, instead of negotiating a deal the players spent their unsunday in -- sundy taking their views to the public. speaker boehner appeared on fox news sunday expressing his surprise when geithner laid out the white house plan of action, calling for a new revenue and stimulus spending. >> i was flabbergasted. i have never seen anything like it. we have several weeks between election day and the end of the year and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> for his part, secretary geithner saying the ball is new in the g.o.p.'s court and he says the administration is ready to move forward if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans and specify their own demands for reducing government spending and he defended the plan that speaker boehner says
yesterday that spending cuts should be part of these fiscal cliff talks. where it may break down on the part about whether the president will push democrats on capitol hill to go along. it was tuesday that dick durbin said spending cuts, medicare cuts, ets, should not be part of these fiscal cliff cuts. we'll see whether durbin and others on the hill go along with what jay carney is saying. we'll see if that improves the possibility of a deal. megyn: we have 33 democratic lawmakers saying we are not touching social security now or for the future. this jackhammer is really rude. >> reporter: the cuts are being made as we speak. it's hard to cut the government. megyn: alert frank, the two guys features in your first report. someone else came to the white house hat must have been an extraordinary moment. mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left witho
, and ten year treasury down to 1.59%. no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to
stand tall. if we go over the fiscal cliff, let's do it. no sense kicking the can down the line. lou: did you ever see that movie , dr. strange love and slim pickens? he gets on the bomb and they're dropping it over the soviet union. he hopped. toyota tell. anyway. we are sure union members would agree that raising middle-class taxes by $2,000 per year is not a perfect solution. also raising taxes on the top 2% covers just a little over eight days a federal government expenses, but that is okay. good news for new york city in the midst of all of this. not a single person was reported shot, stabbed or slashed. police officials said they cannot remember the last time that happened. the murder rate is been so low in new york city at the city is on track to record 00 murders this year. the fewest in half a century. a sharp contrast of the foreigners 62 murders so far in chicago. one-third the size of new york. the math is pretty straightforward. and the hits just keep coming for the environmental protection agency. temporarily banning the oil giant from bidding on new contracts with the
that the president does on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> can you also look in the camera and say dear democrats, both for and include some of the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. because that's not what they're doing right now. should they include this? >> yes, and i know that democrats except that this has to be a balanced package that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> yet months ago, that was voted down 99 to zero. earlier this week, the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, insisted major spending cuts and entitlement reform will not be part of these talks. nancy pelosi has been noncommittal about whether cuts will be in the deal. still, they are trying to breathe into the talks with vice president biden shopping avenue costco in washington, picking up a big-screen tv and an apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of the deal. >> i am. all these folks in the store. they are going to make a difference. reporter: a phone call last night between speaker boehner and the president was very curt. it signa
weeks because he does not think the proposal to avoid a fiscal cliff is serious one. negotiations here are nowhere. another republican, senator lindsey graham thinks he thinks things are heading down hill. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it's clear to me they made a political calculation. the offer doesn't deal with the entitlement reform to save the medicare and medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. it raises $1.6 trillion on job creators to destroy the economy. no spending controls. >> reporter: treasuresy secretary tim geithner advocated for clinton era tax rates and wants top earns to pay 39.6%. he said when that was the rate in the '90s there was was good economic growth and strong private investment. said republicans would rather raise revenue closing the loophole and limiting deduction need the time to realize that might not bring in enough cash. >> that is a good set of propose is and good for the economy. if they have suggestions, they want to go further, lay it out to us. >> secretary geithner said he cannot promise we won't go off the fiscal cliff. s
to a f fiscal cliff deal. what's the latest and is this posturing, kelly, or is this real? i mean, is this disagreement about kind of laying out the stakes of where everybody stands and what they're willing to give or is it a possibility that we don't get a deal? >> reporter: well, you do hear rumblings, chris, about no deal. but at the same time people are saying there's still some negotiating time left and a bit of optimism. when you heard the tone of what was unfolding yesterday, it was kind of shocking to republicans who would say that the president's offer is so far from a negotiating point that they are surprised not so much that these are the positions that we're in because much has been the president's public rhetoric but in terms of real negotiating they say they were surprised this wasn't the kind of offer that would have happened some weeks ago, meaning right after the election if you want to start there. but now with just four weeks to go they felt the president needed to move further. democrats believe these are the priorities that voters reinforced with their ballots
. sheville a lot of question, should she be nominated. let me turn to the fiscal cliff. the edge of that is so close to us, are we going to go over it? what will it take to reach a deal? former [speaking spanish] newt gingrich said, it takes sitting down and talking face to face. >> if they wanted to sit and really talk, you can get a lot done. but i always remind people, clinton had been governor. as governor, he had spent years negotiating with legislatures. so when we took control of the congress, we sort of got the dance. he and i spent i think 35 days face to face. it wasn't that my staff will meet with your staff and eventually, we will have a brief phone call. that's nonsense. you have to be in a room. have you to listen to each other. >> so, where's president obama today? well, he was not in washington. he was at a toy factory in pennsylvania. to many, he seems to be back on the campaign trail, campaigning for fiscal ideas. governor palin, speaker gingrich, who has battled with president clinton, said you have to sit down face to face. this is being outsourced. how should
these issues, if they don't scale back the cliff and raise the debt ceiling and address long-term fiscal issues we have a huge problem on ourselves hands. i think the political star are aligned. the president has his legacy. he's a second-term president and i think he really wants to address this and i think the republicans want to address it as well. so i think we'll get it together. >> schieffer: underline for me again, what happens if they don't get a deal? number one, taxes go up for everybody. >> yeah. so the first thing that happens on january 1, everybody's tax rate-- everybody, everybody in this room, across america-- tax rates will go up >> because the bush tax cuts expire. >> because the bush-era tax cuts expire and everybody's tax rates go up. and then we have a boat load of spending cuts. as part of various deals we have a big cut to defense budget, nondefense. add up it it's 4.5% of the nation's g.d.p. that jus evaporates. >> schieffer: what do you, will happen? >> i didn't believe we would get as close to the wire. i sit in exphurk and look from the mark's perspective. i think the
for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the republican offering. he claims that the republican offer was balanced, and because republicans cannot just sit there and negotiate with themselves. here's more from the top republican leaders a short time ago. >> i will be here and i will be available at any moment. so, the president and get serious about solving this problem. reporter: they asked the president sit down so we can stop wasteful spending in washington. on the democratic side, there is emphasis that congress should pass the middle-class tax cuts for people earning up to $250,000 per year. to give those people economic certainty. here is more from nancy pelosi making her case. >> i consider w
and a lot of people down in washington saying they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. as far as grover norquist notices, i don't think republicans should be caving to a special interest of one, frankly. we do see some brave republicans coming out there and they should be supported because they are about finding a solution. >> i want to show this tomb the president playing golf with former president bill clinton. how much do you think fiscal cliff was coming up during their golf rounds? >> i'm sure they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some o
to the looming fiscal cliff, folks, one top republican says his party does not need to put a plan on the table. is that right? oklahoma congressman tom colatosti with his take on this next. >> this is unsustainable. we have 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day. 70,000 this week. 3.5 million retirees this year alone signing up for social security and medicare. people living longer, accessing medicaid. it is not like there is any money in the social security trust fund or medicare trust fund. it has all been spent. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could
and negotiators sort of sit down and workout some of the road bumps here to avert the fiscal cliff. and they don't see campaign rallies, or campaign maneuvers as the way to do that. that being said i think the white house has set out its course here. i think you'll see something a lot different in the fiscal cliff negotiations from the white house than you saw in say the government shut down negotiations a year ago. you are going to see a much more campaigning, much more campaign-like president obama in the next month. jon: you know, some sort of even partial -- neutral observers are saying that the obama campaign won in part because they did a much better job of harnessing the power of social media in this election and driving their voters to the polls. if that succeeded for them in the election, can they do it when it comes to governing? can they make the country, you know, embrace tax increases, for instance. >> yeah it's a huge question. i think there are folks who think that it can work the same way. there are a lot of others who really question whether or not those sorts of tactics, and, y
officials trading insults, playing the blame game here as the clock is winding down on the fiscal cliff. keep in mind time is a-wasting. in 32 days now tax rates soar, spending gets slashed. oh, and don't forget, congress, yeah, they get to take a break for the holidays in 14 days. a recipe for recession. the president is pitching a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in tax heights and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. he'll head to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania to push all this. republicans aren't buying in. listen to house speaker john boehner's reaction. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> didn't take very long for democrats to hit back at speaker boehner. senate majority leader harry reid got up, a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. >> i don't understand his brain. let's go to washington this morning. wow, just when we thought they were getting closer seems like they're even farther apart this morning. >> yeah, you know, the nic
jobless claims which have some sandy issues involved or the fiscal cliff talks? >> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead story -- one of the top stories on the front page of the "wall street journal" suggesting the president is flexible on the tax hikes, that sounds like a deal might get done. you see a gain of 50 or 60 points. gdp up 2.7% from 2%. there was concerning things when you dig into the numbers, it's all fiscal cliff all the time here, chuck. >> oh, hopefully, as you guys say, it will all -- people will rise above, right, becky? >> that's right. >> i know. i see the button. up next, we're taking a deep dive into the u.s. relationship wit
priority should be jobs and growth instead of cutting spending. let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. ♪ now, that's cardworthy. [ man ] all right. here we go. ♪ cardworthy. [ camera shutter clicks ] cardworthy. ♪ so not cardworthy. ♪ [ female announcer ] go to shutterfly.com for all your cardworthy moments and now get up to 40% off. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's plan with this clip from the town. >> i need your help. i can't tell you what it is. you can never ask me about it later. we are going to hurt some people. >> whose car are we going
interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in 1999. 18.7 million people are out of work for the euro zone. pain and greece have jobless rates of more than 25%. back at home, the question of who will be the nation's top diplomat in president obama's second term continues to intersect with complaints about how the administration handled the libya terror attack. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the continuing saga of what susan rice knew and when she knew it. >> since it's classified briefing on capitol hill two weeks ago, lawmakers stressed that ambassador susan rice had asked for the unclassified intelligence on the benghazi attack, including the controversi
both hint that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is on the way. possibly in time for santa. i asked republican john cornyn whether he thinks that is a reality. >>> and governor romney sits down with the president since the election, actually since the debates. does this do either of them any good? rick santorum is out front. and julian assange is out front to answer critics and our questions tonight. let's go "out front." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, an early christmas miracle. or at least the glimmer of one today. barack obama bringing glad ti tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver those presents. no smile from either one of them. but investors didn't care, they're excited about the present,
. now to the fiscal cliff. the edge of that is so close to us. are we going over it? what will take to reach a deal? newt gingrich says it takes sitting down and talking face-to-face. >> if they wanted to sit and really talk, -- i always remind people, clinton had been governor, he years negotiating with legislatures. when we took control of the congress, we sort of got the dance. he and i spent 35 days face-to-face, it wasn't this my staff will meet with your staff and we'll have a brief call. nonsense. you have to be in a room. you have to listen to each other. >> greta: where is president obama today? he was not in washington. he was at a toy factory in pennsylvania. to many he seems to be back on the campaign trail, campaigning for his fiscal ideas. governor palin, speaker gingrich who has battled with president clinton on big issues says you have to sit down in the same room, this is being outsourced. how do we get these parties to talk? >> speaker gingrich knew then as he knows now, the house of representatives has great power because they hold the purse springs they can unfun
discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strategy to victory but he was a charismatic african-am
tonight when we come back. the obama administration's fiscal cliff is apparently hysterically bad, but senator mitch mcconnell burst into laughter upon hearing this. we'll sort through the plan. plus a lesson from president ronald reagan on why republicans should be hesitant to take the president and the democrats at their word when it comes to any deal. and why is dianne feinstein exploring of possibility of housing gitmo terrorists in a neighborhood near you? we'll examine the likelihood of this nutty proposal. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she
budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico report that a phone call last night between boehner and the president was curt, noting it was 28 min
and growth instead of cutting spending. let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's pla
uncertainty about fiscal cliff thing. weakest spending report since may. a lot of storm out of that. according to the commerce department, spending dropped .2% last month. that's down a point or i sudden say 8% jump in september. analysts blame the super storm as i mentioned. its aftermath could cut economic growth for the rest of the year. syria is more isolated than ever tonight with the internet and phone lines down across the nation for the second straight day. government and opposition leaders blame each side. worst outage since the fight began about 19 mobs ago. the head of the united nations said today conflict new and appalling heights of blew tattle and violence. he could have said that a year ago, frankly. now, fears that islamic extremists could try to take advantage of the chaos. and al qaeda inspired militant group tells the associated press joined the effort to topple the regime and determined to form a new islamic state. conor powell live in our middle east newsroom early this saturday morning. connor, what's the late word there? >> well, shepard, president assad and his support
else that republicans are worried about, not 92 but 1994 when the government shut down, newt gingrich was blamed. >> trust me, you talk to republicans, no matter how this shakes off, if we go over the fiscal cliff, we are to blame. i hear that over and over. something to what tom said, it's an amazing notion that a just-elected democrat president is necessary to make permanent the bush tax cuts. they were tax rate cuts across the board. the idea that most of them could be made permanent -- bush couldn't have gotten that done in 2004 after being re-elected. i do think that republicans should take a victory lap in that regard. >> it is really politically smart to do this. you know, but it's also particularly smart to cut the knees out from under grover norquist. who is he? he's an unelected -- >> it's not him. >> he represents something that's real. he represents something that's real. >> i think everybody recognizes to get these numbers to work you have to have revenue increases. the question is, do you need tax rate increases or not? i think it's very tough to make the math work. >> h
bridge. so one bad thing we kick the can down the road. the other we go over the fiscal cliff but without any clear path forward or plan. in my view, a really bad plan is worse than no plan. at the end of the last congress, where i was here as a member of the lame duck, we were prevailed upon, persuaded to vote for a two-year extension of the bush tax cuts. the price of that was -- had we not done that, unemployment insurance. where millions of americans would have ended. in the days up to that vote, i got painful personal calls visits from friends neighbors people i know from delaware who are unemployed, long-term unemployed would have gone off of unemployment insurance. right now, we're facing three million americans going off unemployment insurance by january. for example, one of many sort of unspoken about potentially very negative consequences if all of the current law is enacted. now, there are many in the senate democratic caucus, this is part of what you were referring to who are saying we should go over th
optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> mr. speaker, does the conference perhaps realize that you don't seem to be negotiating in all of this? >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. because raising rates will hurt the very people that we're expecting to upgrade jobs in our country. >> all right. house speaker john boehner. let's head back to capitol hill and check in with dana bash. so the president has looked at this offer and jay carney, his spokesman, called it fairy dust. so what did the republicans expect it to be in return? >> reporter: carol, look, what do they expect in return? what they say that they want is just to talk. that is something that should be emphasized for our viewers which is what we are seeing back and forth in the public, the latest public disc
on how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president plans to deliver remarks and answer questions during a meeting of a business roundtable. critics say the president will call on business leaders to press lawmakers about raising the debt ceiling. while that is happening we expect to hear from house speaker john boehner any moment right now on the hill for the latest on what's happening on fiscal matters. martha? martha: meanwhile, there are new evacuations that have been ordered in a community where a train carrying toxic chemicals derailed nearly a week ago. 100 families told they have to leave their homes in new jersey near philadelphia. they have to play it safe until the last of the hazard does gas is removed. >> what we'll do we'll pump liquid in that dissolves the vinyl chloride. we'll pump that liquid back out into the highway truck. we have a derailment of hazardous of materials over and in a waterway and a community adjacent to it, right next to it. martha: the rail line is paying for hotel rooms and other expenses for 200 people not able to go home. the families as you can ima
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worse than going over this ledge. we went off the fiscal cliff when the president got reelected so now we are just bouncing down further and further ledge to ledge. but the thing is for him to say we're going to increase spending let me give away more money, are you kidding? have you gotten more solyndras you haven't thrown away? enough is enough. the leverage we have is the debt ceiling. i'm hoping our leadership is going to bring that to bear. >> many feel the leverage the president has he says look i want to cut taxes or keep taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. i want middle class taxes to stay low. but the republics, they won't let that happen. he comes forward with a 1.6 trillion though in new taxes in this new deal. what do you think of that deal and where are you willing to compromise in terms of revenues? >> well, the president we had two years ago basically said and i'm not sure who this one is but the one a couple years ago said it would be insane to raise taxes during a recession. we are still in the recession. we are still 8% basically in on unemployment
. again, we don't think social security should be on the table in these fiscal cliff discussions. not the driver of the deficit, and further down the line, we think it's important to not mess with the age or switch to the chain c.p.i. or any other cuts that would affect beneficiaries. mr. scott: would the gentlelady yield? ms. moore: i yield. mr. scott: people caulk about increasing the age of social security or cost of living increase, the first question is whether or not you're going to cut social security. and then if you decide to cut social security, the different -- there are different ways to have doing it. some more painful than others. but the first question is, are you cutting social security? but part of the question is, why? if none of the tax cuts get extended, at this point you have more money than you need on the table system of the only reason you're even discussing a cut in social security is because you want to extend the tax cut. now i think most people when they're faced with the choice, do you want social security to be a piggy bank every time we're running s
medicarecomplete. martha: taking the fiscal cliff fight on the road now, president obama going to the public with his message today as the clock ticks down on what some lawmakers are calling a potential economic disaster. that is how we start a brand new hour on that sunny thought on a friday morning in "america's newsroom." good to have you here. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. are you doing okay? martha: i'm doing great. bill: second hour here. president obama putting the heat on republicans supporting plan to allow taxes to rise on higher income earners. after days and weeks of meetings with no progress, republicans say he is not meeting them halfway. warning now we're in more danger of that fiscal cliff. melissa: i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. i'm here, seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. melissa: the president has made clear from the start that he understands that he will not get every item in this proposal or in his budget proposal that
of weeks. the going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. paul? >> [inaudible]. >> well, we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct. and straightforward. but this assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much are you open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as part of a down payment to get to a longer range solution on entitlements? >> there are a lot of options on the table including that one. andrew. >> [inaudible]. >> the day after the election i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> [inaudible]. >> revenue is on the table but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis! we're spending too much. while we're willing to put revenue on the table we have to recognize it's the spending that is out of control. >>
got props. the clinton era rates which america will return to in january unless the fiscal cliff is resolved. it brought more revenues than at any point in the 1980s. thank you. [ applause ] >> grover! >> stephanie: norquist and maria commented this is a different environment than the 1990s. grover said we got four years of bad regulation, higher taxes. he wants to add more taxes to the tea party too. it will starve tea party i if obama pushes us over the cliff. [ screaming ] >> can't just wait for tea party three. >> probably about 150 billion. >> stephanie: that would be bad. okay. oh, let's see. phillip in durham disagrees with everything i say. about everything? >> ever! >> stephanie: hi, phillip. >> caller: hi, stephanie. look. appreciate the show. i think you have not been fair to the facts and let me just ask you from the -- what we're talking about -- >> stephanie: the facts are oversensitive in my opinion. >> caller: that's why you're better as a comedian than a political pundit. >> stephanie:
the promise of spending cuts has to be included in the deal that averts the fiscal cliff? >> there is a free-market we presented to the white house two weeks ago. the framework has been agreed to in terms of a down payment for the end of this year. that would include spending cuts and it would include revenue. setting up a process for entitlement reform next year and tax reform next year. but this is way out of bounds. and not a recognition by the part of the white house on the serious spending problem we have. >> facing the prospect of going over the fiscal cliff or extending the lower tax rate and at the upper one, which would you choose? >> i will do everything i can to avoid putting the american economy and the american people through the fiasco of going over the fiscal cliff. [indiscernible] >> as i told the president a couple of weeks ago, there are a lot of things i have wanted in my life, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. if we're going to talk about the debt limit in this, there will be some price tag associated with it. >> are you standing by the dollar-for-d
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